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 Post subject: Re: Official RedMarx punk thread
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:51 am 
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I was never fan of Angelic Upstarts, especially because they made "Solidarty" song.

But, these guys are something different:


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 Post subject: Re: Official RedMarx punk thread
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:11 pm 
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Well Upstarts are Labour supporters. I pretty much don't care about politics that much, cause most of bands have shitty politics anyway. My limit is Condemned 84. After that I don't go more on right.

Btw. this is the best that US skinheads went:


It's little bit shitty, but if you like song download album which has polished sound.

and something similar from UK (less punk, and more soul, ska etc.)

They were members of SWP lol I'm saying that, because of CNT's sticker on guys guitar haha

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 Post subject: Re: Official RedMarx punk thread
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:13 pm 
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btw. I love Beruier Noir! They are fucking clowns! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Official RedMarx punk thread
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thefinalmarch wrote:
wow. IRL anarcho-trots.

No, just Trots. I don't know what's with the sticker, thou. They basically just sing about Russian revolution and mining strikes. Oh, and they have good song about Trotsky:



It's for dancing!

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wow. IRL anarcho-trots.

No, just Trots. I don't know what's with the sticker, thou. They basically just sing about Russian revolution and mining strikes.

Weren't most of the POUM in the CNT? I'm guessing it might have something to do with that.


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 Post subject: Re: Official RedMarx punk thread
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I think that sticker is just random. POUM were not Trots anyway... "4th International" wrote pages and pages of useless **** against POUM. Not that I wanna defend POUM, but still...

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 Post subject: Re: Official RedMarx punk thread
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Oh, granted, but a lot of British Trots (and leftists more generally) have a bit of a stiffy for the POUM because it represent for them the high point of anti-Stalinist Leninism. Think it has something to do with the positive depiction in Homage to Catalonia.


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 Post subject: Re: Official RedMarx punk thread
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Yeah.

Anyhow, this ain't punk, but I just can't resist because of this POUM discussion:

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 Post subject: Re: Official RedMarx punk thread
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some german punk, why not:

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 Post subject: Re: Official RedMarx punk thread
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pop-punk, yay.

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