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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:14 pm 
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So I was just banned on revleft so I'll probably be spending more time on here and contributing more.

I'll probably have some political differences with you all but hopefully I'll be tolerated.

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 Post subject: Re: reintroduction
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What was the rationale to the ban?

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 Post subject: Re: reintroduction
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For telling someone to kill themselves.

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 Post subject: Re: reintroduction
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 Post subject: Re: reintroduction
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ill give more info tomorrow

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 Post subject: Re: reintroduction
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You are all evil left communists. Unite the left comrade.

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 Post subject: Re: reintroduction
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TFM wrote:
didn't you become a mod and a trot? (not saying that will have any effect on your membership here or anything)

Os here actually hates trotskyism with a passion.

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 Post subject: Re: reintroduction
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Most kinds of Trot hate most other kinds of Trot with a passion, so that hardly rules it out.


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 Post subject: Re: reintroduction
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Tim Finnegan wrote:
Most kinds of Trot hate most other kinds of Trot with a passion, so that hardly rules it out.

TROTSKYISM

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 Post subject: Re: reintroduction
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I don't know how much difference there is in practice between hating 98% of all Trotskyisms and hating Trotskyism, period.
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