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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:57 pm 
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I'm making this thread to once again respond to something on reddit, I post my response here rather than reddit in the hope of generating further discussion which reddit cannot sustain.

As to the question, the general Marxist line will be to defend the working class against all divisions racial, ethnic, gender, sexual, etc. However, this also means not placing racial, ethnic, gender, sexual, etc. interests above class interests. A good example can be seen with abortion rights. The liberal line would be to make abortions legal. This does not, however, help working class women who cannot afford expensive abortions. The Marxist line would be to make abortions free. Another example can be noted in the trend to downplay the class character of police shootings and overplay the racial character of them. Poor black youths aren't murdered by police because they're black, they're murdered because they're poor. Obama isn't going to get murdered by police, neither is Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton. The fundamental point is that a black worker, a female worker, a gay worker, and a white straight male worker all have more in common with each other than they do with Obama, Hillary Clinton, David Geffen, or Donald Trump respectively.

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 Post subject: Re: Political Correctness
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Poor black youths aren't murdered by police because they're black, they're murdered because they're poor.


Not precisely. They happen to be poor, and they are black. They are murdered because they are black. Police act with impunity
because they victims are poor.

No Obama isn't going to get murdered by the police because he's black, but the hostility and threats against him are far greater than that experienced by any other president, and that's because he's black.

Sharpton may not get shot by the police, but his son, his nephew, his cousin might. And because they happen to be black.


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 Post subject: Re: Political Correctness
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Poor black youths aren't murdered by police because they're black, they're murdered because they're poor.


Not precisely. They happen to be poor, and they are black. They are murdered because they are black. Police act with impunity
because they victims are poor.

No Obama isn't going to get murdered by the police because he's black, but the hostility and threats against him are far greater than that experienced by any other president, and that's because he's black.

Sharpton may not get shot by the police, but his son, his nephew, his cousin might. And because they happen to be black.


I absolutely will not deny the presence of racism as a force that acts relatively independently of class along the lines described by Bordiga in Auschwitz the Great Alibi, but I must also add that poor hispanics and whites are also murdered by police, and while the hispanics may be murdered because they are hispanic, the whites certainly cannot said to be murdered because they are white. Racism taints the statistics of police murder to be proportionally over-represented by minorities, but the numerical majority still consists of white victims. Almost unanimously though, the victims are poor.

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