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 Post subject: Re: Being political
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:24 pm 
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Welshy: yes, I would like to see anything you have about this, via PM. We are trying very hard to avoid false polemics or 'bickering' with the ICT in order to create the basis for a healthier relationship, so it is important to know if this is being undermined.


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 Post subject: Re: Being political
PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:20 pm 
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Welshy: yes, I would like to see anything you have about this, via PM. We are trying very hard to avoid false polemics or 'bickering' with the ICT in order to create the basis for a healthier relationship, so it is important to know if this is being undermined.


It's a great joy to hear that the ICC wants to create the basis for a healthier relationship with the ICT. Tremble in your shoes oh bourgeoisie! We are coming to get you. Workers unite!


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 Post subject: Re: Being political
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:58 pm 
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ICT vs ICC final battle:

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 Post subject: Re: Being political
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:19 pm 
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Did anyone ever run with the idea of starting up a discussion forum in London? I still think it's do-able.


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 Post subject: Re: Being political
PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:11 pm 
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There doesn't seem much point in discussion, as we discussed.


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 Post subject: Re: Being political
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There's a lot of point to discussion, but not to posting it seems, as I lose my postings to redmarx quite often now. But if there really isn't any point to discussion does that mean an end to redmarx? That would be sad, wouldn't it? And how come we have a thread called "Being Political" if discussion has lost its point? Is redmarx undergoing a crisis of confidence?


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 Post subject: Re: Being political
PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:57 pm 
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Articulating thought is a luxury (available time, literature) and in the immediate sense it is useless (it doesn't pay the rent). On top of that it can get you in trouble (and remember the hostility just online). Finally there is skepticism in the possibility and even the desirability of actually grasping something.


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 Post subject: Re: Being political
PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:16 pm 
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Noa wrote:
Articulating thought is a luxury (available time, literature) and in the immediate sense it is useless (it doesn't pay the rent). On top of that it can get you in trouble (and remember the hostility just online). Finally there is skepticism in the possibility and even the desirability of actually grasping something.


Reminds me of the old Borscht Belt joke:

"The food here is terrible."
"Yeah, and the portions are so small....."


What's the alternative? I mean it's what we do, no? Articulate thoughts. And "in the immediate sense, it's useless"-- it doesn't pay the rent-- is the flip side, and the complement to Keynes' "In the long run, we're all dead."

Be that as it may. One or two new comments in 7 days....? Bad business. Not that I want to argue about "a dose of Red Terror" again, or if it's possible for workers to be "objectively counterrevolutionary" against their own state.....but you know, Egypt's in turmoil; EU is acknowledging that Greece, Ireland, and Portugal will need more money; workers at China's 3rd largest shipbuilder haven't been paid in weeks... And there's always work to be done linking Marx's articulation of the contradictions in valorization to... overproduction and things like that.

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 Post subject: Re: Being political
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So how to use Marx's view on money to explain pretty palpable things as inflation, when almost all "Marxists" simply discard it (eg: http://www.rebelnet.gr/articles/view/ma ... d/original) as wrong. Image


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This is the right position, but it needs to be elaborated; "Inflation can be understood only after the acceptance that money is itself a commodity, a product of labour produced for sale, having its own value determined in the same way as that of other commodities (by the amount of socially necessary labour incorporated in it). Despite the surface appearance, gold is still the money-commodity, both internally and for external trade. It has been replaced as the circulating medium by tokens, the metallic coins and coloured paper notes we use in everyday transactions, but is still the ultimate standard of price.

It is still gold that determines whether or not a currency has been over-issued. The various paper currencies of the world are still defined, in economic reality, as weights of gold, even though most of them are no longer legally so. This economic definition of currencies in terms of weights of gold is continually changing; their "gold content" is being continually reduced as a result of inflation."

http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/soci ... ation-pt-2


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